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Your argument is right on the "Money" Rob! Governor Jen Jen is finally waking up to smell the fiscal coffee, but the cuts aren't nearly deep enough to get the budget in line. Education can be sustained with less funding by trimming the fat on the administrative level and focusing on the core subjects.
Joe Divozzo
We don't need to cut teacher pay; it will suffice to hold it steady. After a five year freeze in the salary tables, we can negotiate whether or not the salaries should be raised.
Are you seriously a University of Michigan student? This article is absolutely ridiculous.
What else do you think schools would spend money on? Of course it's teachers. I don't think they're going to spend money on state-of-the-art research and microscopes. But, really, thanks for educating me about the fact that the largest expenditure for schools is employees.
Before suggesting or implying we should cut teacher pay, why don't you at least examine the causality between quality of education and teachers rather than saying we'd be fine cutting pay? Don't tell me we should cut spending just because it's okay to move closer to average, because average is not something people should strive to be.
Let's all vote to reduce Robert Soave's pay once he graduates and gets a job. That's legal, right?
The column's author argues teachers' salaries should be cut, rather than eliminating programs and increasing classroom sizes to close budget gaps. As a previous commenter said, teachers are a hard-working, often underrated group who - like any of us - have to support themselves and continuous education. This is an important point to acknowledge, and I fully agree that cutting salaries is not a realistic solution. That aside, however, the author fails to recognize that there are schools in Washtenaw County that have been forced to trim down staff, eliminate arts and athletics, increase class sizes, and still face budgetary problems. What else should they eliminate?
Universities across the nation look for "well-rounded students"; students who not only study, but also are passionate about other activities. This is something the admissions office repeats and virtually every student realizes. I strongly feel that the extra-curricular experiences often defined my high school career and made me a convincing applicant to the University of Michigan two years ago. Since these programs are the first to be cut, it's more than evident that there are students in Washtenaw County who will not have that opportunity to participate in these activities. As a result, relative to other university applicants, Washtenaw County's (and Michigan's) students will suffer.
Michigan's leaders and citizens continuously emphasize that our students are a key component to the state's future recovery. Unfortunately, the decisions of voters and legislators in Lansing do not reflect this ideology. This state is home to some great public (and private) universities and it has been our goal to keep these young students in the state after graduation. The goal first, however, is to ensure these students reach college in the first place -- we want our students to be competitive, qualified applicants. For this reason K-12 funding is critical and thus absolutely necessary for Michigan to "give more money to education than 45 of its neighbors."
Ahem. Doctors, lawyers and a whole bunch of other professionals indeed must engage in continuing education in order to keep their credentials, and as far as earning a Masters in order to earn professional certification, doctors, lawyers and others have to do it up front, before they go to work. It's called medical, law, and other forms of professional school. If your attitude is typical of teachers, then I must conclude that most teachers are spoiled entitlement princesses who want professional pay without having to earn professional credentials.
I've heard lots of rhetoric about how teachers are "under paid," but I don't believe it. In fact, most teachers are paid very well, especially considering they start right out of undergrad, only work 9 months out of the year, and receive great benefits. Throw in the fact that they can truly suck at their job and thus deliver an inferior or flawed product (i.e., an uneducated child) without any consequences, and I conclude that teachers are overpaid.
We should out source K-12 Education to China . Walmart could help us make the connections to make this happen.
I agree that everyone is taking pay cuts in the state. But the profession of teaching is not really like a regular job. I have an elementary certification. I first earned a 'provisional certification' that expires. I am required to take additional classes and eventually earn a masters degree on my own dime and own time to earn a 'professional certification', then more to become a 'highly qualified' and additional classes to stay current on my subject areas. If you cut teacher pay how is a teacher supposed to support themselves, perhaps a family, and continually take more classes? Doctors and lawyers do not have to go back to school to freshen up their degree. And last I checked the prices of university classes are not getting reduced.
Also, teachers are public employees. I rarely see our police, firefighter, and other city workers pay rate compared to the national average as passionately as teacher pay is.
And for what it is worth, are elementary, middle school, and high school teachers pay really too expensive? Lets look at public university teacher and staff pay and benefits.
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